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  Going Nuclear - Marriage

  by Sofia Lose in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  has anyone here gone nuclear on their spouse and, all of a sudden, came out in the open as a jw opposer?.

  by this i mean, sitting them down and saying: i no longer want to be a jw anymore, do not want to go to meetings or preaching anymore!

  and, what has happened in the relationship after that?.

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  Sofia Lose...

  Soo sorry your going thru this, but stay strong. .. i agree with one who said to bring up your doubts in family worship night but do it more like it was suggested, someone at wirk, etc asked you, "how do you know for sure that Jehovah chose your religion back in 1914-1919, & u responded to that person well we went thru a spiritual inspection based on the "quality" spiritual food being served at that time & that's why we say we were chosen by Jesus.." then u can ask ur hubby to help you research old watchtower & publications from the KH library & ask other older JWS if they have publications served during that time & by that hopefully he can also discover with you the TTAT, & if you cant find those publications express to ur hubby how important this information is to you both as JWs & reach to ithers if tgey have them so t he 2 of u can have a response to all who question our "truth"... that you want to be like Paul giving a public defense of your faith to those ask u asking it, quote the scripture, .... if he discovers he can't find anyone who has them, just say "that's odd, i would think that something soo important & historic in our history would be soo readily available to us in the KH library or ordered-requested from the WT so we can use that with others out in the ministry to prove we have the truth, don't you think it's strange?" ..... i find that works to get them thinking, I had one jw say that makes perfect sense.... seeding doubts with reasonING works best instead of throwing accusations it puts the hard core JW in defense where they don't listen to anything. ... Jesus did the same to his apostles & the pharises.... best wishes to you
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  Need advice: Intimacy with my wife almost non existint because she considers me an apostate

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just on of the perks of being an apostate who is married to a branwashed, blinded jw woman.

  you know, we have been married for ~27 years....most of which we had nothing to do with the piece of shite cult.

  up till the begining of 2014 was when i woke up.

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  Olivia Wilde

  I agree with Steve & Ricky G, you u to tell her you married her & not tge religion.... approach your concerns in a positive way, & be affectionate with her in that way she would realize your love for her is independent of her & your religious beliefs.... woman le to be loved & kept on their toes give her admiration .... then down the road give your family worship a history study on the JW with the proclaimers book & use the references there to do ur own research & introduce the copies of the actual watchtowers, u can find them on the internet being taught in the 1900s, & say "oh look at here what it actually says on the WT" playing u didn't know avoiding malice though but playing it guillable, say u want to have family worship night & bring the proclaimers book... just a thought. .. but I agree every marriage should have intimacy & the more the better I feel just as strong as you about it jejeje
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  How to evade questions from elders when you stop going out door to door

  by Olivia Wilde in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  due to circumstances right now i cannot leave permanently the watchtower, however i need honest advice of what to say when elders question me how come im not meeting the group out for door to door & going out in " field service"... what would be proper responses not to draw suspicions since i'm aware of ttatt.. .any serious advice please...

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  @Giordano that is also a good point to make and believe it or not there is a registered Sex offender in the congregation, I don't know all the circumstances and what happened, actually I heard the story years ago but then I thought he was found innocent based on what I had heard, but then I thought if he was innocent why did he had to register then? I don't allow my child going alone inside the KH anywhere even when saying hello to little friends my child's age,..,, something to note I was never made aware of there being a registered sex offender in the congregation for all I know there could be more. I ran into his photo checking the city I live in. ...I do plan to move halls since after finding he was indeed registered, we have strict state laws on that and I don't understand how can he be around or near children when I believe they are to keep certain distances, I have to look into it and be more observant what he does after meetings...
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  How to evade questions from elders when you stop going out door to door

  by Olivia Wilde in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  due to circumstances right now i cannot leave permanently the watchtower, however i need honest advice of what to say when elders question me how come im not meeting the group out for door to door & going out in " field service"... what would be proper responses not to draw suspicions since i'm aware of ttatt.. .any serious advice please...

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  All great ideas & i think now with your ideas I do have something in mind to say, I really don't want to say I'm depressed because I'm afraid they might use that done the road & call me a "mentally diseased" "apostate".... i love these elders & i know they mean well but since we are having CO visit in few weeks he mentioned he wanted to do a shepherding call cuz I haven't been out in door to door in months, the only hrs I'm reporting is my bible study with my child, since I want to teach him from the bible, i don't use any WT literature, reporting a few hrs a month so I don't draw too much suspition but they notice my decline in hrs.... & that is what prompted questions which I'm avoiding to walk by them
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  How to evade questions from elders when you stop going out door to door

  by Olivia Wilde in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  due to circumstances right now i cannot leave permanently the watchtower, however i need honest advice of what to say when elders question me how come im not meeting the group out for door to door & going out in " field service"... what would be proper responses not to draw suspicions since i'm aware of ttatt.. .any serious advice please...

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  Olivia Wilde

  Due to circumstances right now I cannot leave permanently the watchtower, however I need honest advice of what to say when elders question me how come Im not meeting the group out for door to door & going out in " field service"... what would be proper responses not to draw suspicions since I'm aware of TTATT.. .any serious advice please...
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  JW September broadcasting "this generation"

  by Olivia Wilde in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this month on "this generation" reminded me of the movie "book of eli" first scene with eli & carnegie's .

  "i need that book ... i'll kill ya.

  i'll take the book," threatens carnegie in a face-off in the middle of the street reminiscent of a western shootout.. .

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  Crazyguy they are only reading & using Exodus 1 verse 6 to maintain what is a "generation" he didn't read the prior verse (5) for obvious reasons since it would establish the clearly the context as to what is a generation represents.... what is that thing they do?.... oh yes micro quoting....
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  JW September broadcasting "this generation"

  by Olivia Wilde in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this month on "this generation" reminded me of the movie "book of eli" first scene with eli & carnegie's .

  "i need that book ... i'll kill ya.

  i'll take the book," threatens carnegie in a face-off in the middle of the street reminiscent of a western shootout.. .

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  This month on "this Generation" reminded me of the movie "Book of Eli" first scene with Eli & Carnegie's

  "I need that book ... I'll kill ya. I'll take the book," threatens Carnegie in a face-off in the middle of the street reminiscent of a Western shootout.

  "Why? asks the unemotional Eli. "Why do you want it?"

  "I grew up with it. I know its power. If you read it, then so do you. That's why they burned them all after the war," answers Carnegie.

  "Just staying alive is an act of faith. Building this town is an even bigger act of faith. But they don't understand that. None of them do. And I don't have the right words to help them. But the book does," says Carnegie. "Imagine, imagine how different, how righteous this little world could be if we had the right words for our faith."

  A few scenes later, when Carnegie's senior officer disparages the book, an angry Carnegie explodes.

  "It's a weapon ... If we want to rule more than one small ... town, we have to have it. People will come from all over. They will do exactly what I tell them if the words are from the book, (OR TEACH WHAT I WANT IT TO TEACH) " spews Carnegie.

  He reflectively mutters, "It has happened before."

  In conclusion: Any organization will use any words or scriptures they want to make FIT what they want to perfectly justify how the rest of us should believe it, since they say "only the anointed have the discernment to interpret scriptures" he only read Exodus 1:6 and to say what "a generation" in regards to Jesus saying about the generation seeing the beginning and end of the last days, but now they teach it's an overlapping generations. I guess someone told him that he missed reading the previous verse Exodus 1:5 which talks about those who were born to Jacob came out to be 70 people and together with Joseph's brothers and him are a generation. Reading beyond the scriptures is a cardinal sin in itself....
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  "Crises of Conscience"

  by Olivia Wilde in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just finished reading chapters 11-12 of raymond franz, crises of conscience & i must admit, i am pretty strong person, however the way ed dunlap & ray franz were treated left me crying, i had tears rolling done my eyes driving home from work on friday... & how ed was kicked out by wt, left me feel soo disgusted & outraged.... it was very obvious he needed to stay at bethel because of his age & medical conditions but i admired he didn't compromise his conscious, it's sickening to me how cold & callous these men can treat a christian after all his service.... & of course ray franz situation was no exception either, the witch hunt they did to get him out was, well, there's just isnt enough adjectives to describe their disgusting motives against him... he was 59 yrs old trying to make a honest living with his wife & for them to go after him was devious & demon like.... i'm soo grateful i came across this book & i wished i had much much sooner.... i know god will reward both ed dunlap & franz plus many many more who have been unjustly & unchristian like treated during that time & this time, sooo sickening.....i still feel very much upset & emotional over the whole thing .... i never met any of them & then yet i feel deep christian love for them......

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  I have to admit I moved from an English congregation to another language abt 8-10 years ago & i can assure you with all these "new light" changes have gotten lost in translation for me it wasn't that noticeable in a different language so I had to go back & read all of them in English to discover for myself all these "new light changes" it was eye opening to me to put one & 2 together, this prompted me reading this book... another thing I have notice since my awakening, i strongly believe that's why many who go to the eng are more aware of everything the WTBTS is doing & happening with major changes than in other language congregations, i notice they are more embracing & don't question it.
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  "Crises of Conscience"

  by Olivia Wilde in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just finished reading chapters 11-12 of raymond franz, crises of conscience & i must admit, i am pretty strong person, however the way ed dunlap & ray franz were treated left me crying, i had tears rolling done my eyes driving home from work on friday... & how ed was kicked out by wt, left me feel soo disgusted & outraged.... it was very obvious he needed to stay at bethel because of his age & medical conditions but i admired he didn't compromise his conscious, it's sickening to me how cold & callous these men can treat a christian after all his service.... & of course ray franz situation was no exception either, the witch hunt they did to get him out was, well, there's just isnt enough adjectives to describe their disgusting motives against him... he was 59 yrs old trying to make a honest living with his wife & for them to go after him was devious & demon like.... i'm soo grateful i came across this book & i wished i had much much sooner.... i know god will reward both ed dunlap & franz plus many many more who have been unjustly & unchristian like treated during that time & this time, sooo sickening.....i still feel very much upset & emotional over the whole thing .... i never met any of them & then yet i feel deep christian love for them......

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  I just finished reading Chapters 11-12 of Raymond Franz, Crises of Conscience & i must admit, I am pretty strong person, however the way Ed Dunlap & Ray Franz were treated left me crying, i had tears rolling done my eyes driving home from work on friday... & how Ed was kicked out by WT, left me feel soo disgusted & outraged.... it was very obvious he needed to stay at bethel because of his age & medical conditions but I admired he didn't compromise his conscious, it's sickening to me how cold & callous these men can treat a Christian after all his service.... & of course Ray Franz situation was no exception either, the witch hunt they did to get him out was, well, there's just isnt enough adjectives to describe their disgusting motives against him... he was 59 yrs old trying to make a honest living with his wife & for them to go after him was devious & demon like.... I'm soo grateful I came across this book & i wished I had much much sooner.... i know God will reward both Ed Dunlap & Franz plus many many more who have been unjustly & unchristian like treated during that time & this time, sooo sickening.....i still feel very much upset & emotional over the whole thing .... i never met any of them & then yet I feel deep christian love for them.....
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  badly handled from Elders

  by Olivia Wilde in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am still attending the kh, i actually recently became aware of the ttatt, what i believed came as a huge surprised for me, i wasn't raised as a jw and have been for about 15 years.

  i have always been a very open minded individual all my life always seeing both sides of any situation with logic and common sense and so i believe discovering all of the doctrines i have been taught sense 16 years of age, wasn't extremely hard for me to realize in my heart it was a lie.

  well it was me discovering the watchtower society being a ngo member of the un nations for 10 years, after that the snowball just got bigger for me.

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  @lisa rose what you say is perfectly explained as to what I'm experiencing, when u said about leveling makes perfect sense thank you for putting it that way..... i was married to a jw in my 20s, only dating & married within the yr of meeting, dating, etc...stupid decision really since it resulted in divorce within 5 yrs, i had a child, elders blamed me more for it, ignoring what my ex did to the marriage & me as his wife so I was the one to be DF, it was ok since I really didn't care at that time anymore.... i left him cuz he b came physically aggressive & didn't want my child to see that.... my ex hub parents are also JWS & they take, pickup & take care of my child while I'm working, he remarried & moved away so I depend alot of them babysitting or else I would have financial difficulties, gratefully they adore & love their grandchild & they are reasonable people & if i would disassociate u know what happens with that, they go to a different congregation but same hall & word gets around quickly... i can't depend on my family so that's why I keep going. ... i didn't go to mtgs for 3 weeks recently & not one elder call me to see if everything was ok with me, that in itself just made me pull away more...that's why I want my child to still have a relationship with the grandparents